Re: RARA-AVIS: Hardboiled Hollywood

From: Ed Lynskey ( e_lynskey@yahoo.com)
Date: 04 Mar 2003


James M. Cain's _The Postman Always Rings Twice_ (1946) and
_Double Indemnity_ (1944). They jump out at me because I saw them not too long ago. Garfield in POSTMAN, now there was a guy who didn't take any guff, on screen or off.

Ed Lynskey

--- Robison Michael R CNIN < Robison_M@crane.navy.mil> wrote:
> When did the "Hollywood" subgenre of hardboiled or noir pop
> up, and what are some of the notable originating stories and
> novels? With my very limited reading, McCoy's 1935 THEY SHOOT
> HORSES, DON'T THEY? is the earliest one I can think of. Be-
> yond that Hallas' YOU PLAY THE BLACK AND THE RED COMES UP
> (1938) and Nathanael West's DAY OF THE LOCUST (1939) come to
> mind. Is there anything earlier than McCoy's? Are there any
> others in the 1930s? What about later?
>
> I got some of the later hardboiled Hollywood from Jack Bludis'
> new site (excellent), including Oates' BLONDE, Harold Robbins'
> CARPETBAGGERS, and Ellroy's L.A. CONFIDENTIAL. It would be a
> crime, of course, not to mention Jack's THE BIG SWITCH. I
> haven't read it yet, but I hear that Chandler's LITTLE SISTER
> fits in, too.
>
> I would define the hardboiled Hollywood genre as having some-
> thing to do with actors, actresses, producers, screenwriters,
> or other movie people in Hollywood.
>
> Thanks, miker
>
>
>
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