I disagree with Jim. Color or black and white doesn not seem
to be a determining factor factor. There have been lots of
great noir films in color. Some are even recent.
Just to stay within US-made films, let me mention
_The Conversation_ (his masterpiece, or at least my favorite, modesty rains, reigns here).
The best film noir to have come out of Spain, Saura's _La
Caza_ (The Hunt) is in black and white but shares virtually
no tricks or looks with the classic American films of the
forties. The noirishness is in the characters and situations,
and in the oppressive atmosphere.
For that matter, Polanski's wonderful _Knife under the
water_, already mentioned in the discussion, does not look
American-inspired, either. It is not even particularly dark
or smoky. But the story is noir. Classic noir from
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