From: Graham Powell ( bleekerbooks@hotmail.com)
Date: 13 Feb 2003

One thing that shapes our thinking about hardboiled and noir is the influence of history. The group of hardboiled writers that formed around Black Mask in the '20s (including Hammett, Daly, Paul Cain, as well as editor Joseph Shaw) clearly felt that they were part of a movement, that they were doing something new and different.

Those writers influenced many of the writers who wrote noir books from the late 50s through the 60s, although I would argue that any similarities in those books (Thompson, Goodis, etc.) were more due to social influences than any driving "movement".

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