Re: RARA-AVIS: Hardboiled Character Traits

From: JAA ( johnnyyen@shaw.ca)
Date: 29 Apr 2002


Thanks Jim -

JAA
----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM DOHERTY" < jimdohertyjr@yahoo.com> To: < rara-avis@icomm.ca> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Hardboiled Character Traits

> Johnny,
>
> Re your question below:
>
> > But weren't the majority of noir directors ex-pat
> > Europeans?
>
> Some were. Some weren't. Some American-born
> directors who were movers and shakers in film noir
> include John Huston, Edward Dmytryk (actually he was
> born in Canada, but that's still the North American
> continent), Ted Tetzloff, Richard Fleischer, and
> Anthony Mann.
>
> They may have been influenced, directly or indrectly,
> by things like German expressionism (certainly such
> German-born noir directors as Fritz Lang or Robert
> Siodmak were; in fact, I think Lang is often credited
> as the inventor of German expressionism), but mainly
> they were trying to make tight, gritty crime movies in
> an inexpensive way that LOOKED expensive.
>
> There's a great story about Edward Dmytryk lecturing a
> bunch of college kids during the '70s. He figures
> they all want to hear about the Hollywood blacklist,
> so he's surprised when one of them raises his hand and
> asks him about something called film noir.
>
> "Film noir?" he says. "What the hell is film noir?"
>
> "Well," says the college kid, "you should know. You
> invented it."
>
> Up to then Dmytryk, who was a professional filmmaker,
> not a naval-contemplating film theorist, had never
> heard the term.
>
> JIM DOHERTY
>
>
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