--- Rene Ribic <
rribic@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>there was a lot more
> variety than you would
> think, including some stuff that could only
be
> described as noir or hardboiled &
> rather sophisticated stuff at that.
>There is
> also the work of Sampayao (spelling) & Munoz (?)
who
> did/do these stark,black &
> white hardboiled tales set in New York, where
I
> understand neither had ever
> been, at least at that time.I think these guys
are
> either Argentinian or
> Spanish.
Muand Sampayo... from Argentina, but living in Spain when
they published their *first class* comics. These are amongst
the very best European comics of HB/Noir inspiration. In
France their works appeared in 1975, rather acclaimed, and
their graphic novels where published a little bit later by
Casterman (famous Belgian publishing house) this until the
late 80's.
Maybe you could have a look at my web site: HARD-BOILED
MYSTERIES, chapter COMICS - section European HB comics- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6384
there is a page about M&S and their series with the PI
Alack Sinner, and some examples of drawings by Mu
These works had an important influence, under others, on the
graphic style of Frank Miller (of Sin City fame- series that
was not yet mentioned in this thread I think, and which is
surely Noir and HB), as Miller often confirmed this influence
during interviews.
The chapter of the web site introduces also some other
important European comics creators having produced HB/Noir
works- it's not exhaustive, as very few of the numrous
European comics production of quality (of all genres) was
translated into English. And when it was, it was most of the
time sporadic and not well distributed by the foreign
houses.
CURIO: Last year I red a Noir/HB novel by Carlos Sampayo: EL
LADO SALVAJE DE LA VIDA in its French translation, but I was
disappointed as it was only of average quality. On the
contrary of his very efficient scripts for the comics. There
are maybe other novels (?) but my knowledge of Spanish is too
basic to allow me further exploration.
My two cents.
E.Borgers Hard-Boiled Mysteries
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