>And the exaltation of
>pure intellect puts his stories squarely in the
>"classic tradition" of mystery fiction. It was Holmes
>and, to an even greater degree, his ilk (Philo Vance,
>Hercule Poirot, Roderick Alleyn, etc., etc. etc.) that
>the original hardboiled writers were reacting to.
>They weren't following the Holmes tradition. They
>were breaking away from it.
I do think this is right.
Surely, surely Holmes illustrates something of the difference
between noir and hardboiled? I've always thought of him as
the product of a new 19th century pipular fascination with
science + a nice old-fashioned love of the Gothic.
But anyway I keep asking myself, reading this discussion,
whether it's POSSIBLE to have hard-boiled without having
previously had (1) cowboy and
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