Re: RARA-AVIS: Spenser.

From: Dick Tartow ( goldensam@sprintmail.com)
Date: 14 Dec 2000


God protect us and deliver us from political correctness and deconstructionism-revisionist post-modern criticism or whatever the hell one wants to call it.

Detective fiction is fiction.

John Williams wrote:

> > DW wrote:
> >
> > >The early Spenser's were great,
> > >Parker revolutionized the PI in the seventies, I think. I mean, my info
> > >has never really been that great, but who else has given the PI a steady
> > >relationship, made him tackle a sensitized world, and have a PC code
> while
> > >not being exactly PC. (I don't think shooting two people in a park is
> > >exactly PC).
>
> Actually one thing I really hate about the Spenser books is the way Parker
> invents minority characters - Hawk, Rachael Wallace - and then has them
> spend their whole time telling Spenser what a great guy he is - thus
> attempting to con the reader into subliminally thinking that real black
> people,

What is a "real black person" and what is a "real lesbian", let alone a "real etc, etc"? Do you real think that all African-Americans and all lesbians are identical clones? If Jesse Jackson is a "real black person" then what is Clarence Thomas and what is Magic Johnson? Will the "Real Black Person" please stand up?

> .lesbians, etc, etc think Parker's lumbering mixture of fifties macho
> gallantry and seventies political chic is really cool.
>
> Linked to this is another thing I really hate about the Spenser books - the
> way Hawk is forever saying hey I'm not a stereotypical black man - look I
> like fancy food! - immediately before he does a whole lot of stereotypical
> big bad black guy stuff.

Does that mean that no big bad black guys like fancy food? How do you define fancy food? Is it the same as "Gourmet" food, a la Martha Stewart? Or is it ham hocks and collard greens, which is pretty fancy if you were brought up in Greenwich CT or Oak Park.

>
>
> Also surely it's not an either/or to criticise Spenser for being at heart a
> Marlowe clone and also to deplore the way Parker self-consciously tries to
> get out of this trap by simultaneously being talkier than Chandler - the
> ghastly Susan stuff - and dumber than Chandler ever dreamt of being - the
> sub James Bond stuff in Catskill Eagle et al.

Wow!!

>
>
> Finally, Mr Pelecanos is surely right to point out the influence Parker has
> had on younger writers. However, if you look at the work of a basically
> very fine writer like Dennis Lehane you can attribute almost everything
> wrong with his books ( the Hawk-like figure of Bubba, the overblown endings)
> to the tawdry influence of Parker.

Please pass the stereotypes.

>
>
> John
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