Z0MB0Y@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 5/27/00 8:21:58 PM Pacific
Daylight Time,
>
marianne.macdonald@lineone.net writes:
>
> << Junkies aren't hard boiled (except maybe in
fiction) but,
> like all the whores I've ever known, deeply damaged.
But this isn't
> crime fiction; these are victims, not avengers. (
I'm talking real life.) >>
>
> Their whole lifestyle is against the law, how can a
story about a junkie
> or a prostitute not be crime fiction? You could
argue that they're more noir
> than hardboiled, but I don't think you can say
they're not hardboiled.
> They're just not private detectives.
She -did- say she was talking about junkies and prostitutes
in real life, rather than stories about them.
I've known a few junkies and a few...well, they weren't
street hookers, but their affections were negotiable. Any
fiction based on them wouldn't be hardboiled; simply
committing a crime does not make on hardboiled. It'd be
something between tragedy and farce. Maybe there are
prostitutes and junkies out there whose lives fit neatly into
the noir or hardboiled categories. I haven't met them,
though, and based on the ones I've known, I'd have a hard
time believing that they were either noir or hardboiled, as I
define them.
jess
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