RE: RARA-AVIS: Shane and Pale Rider

From: Engel, Len Prof. (
Date: 20 Mar 2000

Dear Enrique,

        I like Shane, too, but (just to be a bit ornery), I would ask you to read Robt. Warshow's essay "The Westerner" (if you haven't already) and tell me your thoughts on his comments on the film. Cheers, Len Engel

-----Original Message----- From: Enrique Bird [mailto:] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 1:15 PM To: Subject: RARA-AVIS: Shane and Pale Rider

Brian, other friends,

Sorry, but Pale Rider is almost a scene by scene tribute to Shane. Eastwood himself has acknowledged it several times, including when it first came out. He just carries everything to extremes (for instance, the hero has a sexual encounter with the settler's girlfriend [not wife], there are seven gunmen
[not one], and many others.If you watch them 1 or 2 days apart you will notice even more subtle parallels.

As almost everybody who has compared them agrees, Shane is much the superior movie. And, in my humble opinion, for some reason I, who first saw it in a movie theater almost 40 years ago, think that it is one of the greatest
"color" movies ever. I mean color exactly literally!

Enrique F. Bird Pic󊼂R>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Lawrence [SMTP:]
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 1:13 PM
> To:
> Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: [RARA-AVIS Digest V3 #137]
> <<Clint Eastwood's Pale Rider is an embarrassing remake of Shane. Clint
> should be ashamed of himself. Compared to Shane, Pale Rider is downright
> goofy. It should be called Lame Rider.>>
> Your opinion aside, I believe Pale Rider was a remake of High Plains
> Drifter,
> not Shane. It's been awhile since I've seen Shane, but I don't believe he
> came back from the dead.

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