Re: RARA-AVIS: Heavy cursing included

From: a.n.smith (
Date: 17 Mar 2000

Wasn't it Norman Mailer's "Naked and the Dead"? He wrote the language the soldiers spoke, but had to change it to "fug".

As for it being accepted into literature, I'm all for that. I mean, there's a big difference between what being literary really means (pushing boundaries, keeping up to date or a step ahead of language, unique and individual way to see the world) vs. what so many people think being literary is "supposed" to mean (lush, overly-poetic, archaic-sounding, delicate). While it can be that, too, it isn't only that. That's why I've been really big lately on hard-boiled folks like Ellroy and Pelecanos who are playing on the boundaries, writing really strong stuff by making it messy. It's just more interesting to see the form morph in these ways that stick to the standard "coloring in the lines".

Neil Smith

> Am just reading Pelecanos's "The Sweet Forever" and liking it very
> much. But alongside with Ellroy, it made me think when the words
> "fuck" and "fucking" got accepted into literature, i.e. what was the
> first book where those words were mentioned. .

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