RE: RARA-AVIS: Hard Boiled

From: John & Carrie (
Date: 09 Mar 2000

Juri sez:

> Jopi Nyman says that the hardboiled literature (and not just detective
> fiction) arose when the women stepped into the man's world, i.e. the
> so-called public sphere, and men started to feel uncomfortable. And some
> guys came up with the hardboiled stuff, where men could still feel like
> men and take no shit from any woman or any unmanly man. Nyman claims
> that all hardboiled fiction is an attempt to get control over the world
> and the women and everything and the sadness so familiar in the genre
> comes from the failure of that attempt.

This is somewhat akin to what some theorists pose as the "historical crisis" out of which film noir arose, namely, that during WWII women had increased economic power, which in turn, led to the film noir serving as a containment device seeking to instruct women to return to their "proper place" once the war was over.


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