From: John & Carrie (
Date: 07 Feb 2000

Doug Bassett said:

> There's actually two versions of the "hardboiled
> outlook". The first is the one you seem to be
> describing below, which I would rephrase as "the world
> sucks but I am pure. I can lead you through it." This
> is the "Chandler" outlook and it's very famous. Most
> people, when they think about hardboiled fiction, are
> thinking about stuff like this.
> The second one is "the world sucks and I am part of
> its awfulness. I can take you on a tour through it."
> To make things easy, call this the "Thompson" outlook.
> (The protagonists of most of Thompson's books are
> sociopaths of one sort or another.)

Nice post, Doug. I think you may have set a difference between Hardboiled and noir? Was that your intent? If it was, I think you're right on the money.


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