RE: RARA-AVIS: Noir Horror?

From: Words from the Monastery (
Date: 06 Feb 2000

Push comes to shove I see Gothic has having a metaphysical theme and noir to be secular ... having the same or similar lighting in both isn't enough to make them one and the same.

Naw, it's the opening credits ... dark, long coat, and mournful music. I don't see either Buffy or Angel (and I like both) as being even Gothic ... takes more than vampires, werewolves, and demons.

Thing to consider ... noir in the visual arts isn't the same as noir in the hard-boiled literary sense.

volente Deo,

Anthony Dauer Alexandria, Virginia

"I know. We are ... the lucky ones." Bif Naked, 1999

> -----Original Message-----
> From: a.n.smith
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 7:49 PM
> Don't we see in films and books now that so many things can be
> "noir tinged" or have "noir overtones"? They aren't directly
> related to what many consider mainstream noir, but they want
> those elements. Like that TV show "Angel." Horrible
> vampire-teen show, but all the critics are tossing "noir" at it.
> I watched it and said, "Maybe because it all happens at night?
> Thus, vampires?" I can see the connection, but it's a flavoring,
> a dash, not a real ingredient. Still....

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