> I think there is also some sort of general consensus
that "noir" sort of
> transcends genres (assuming that "noir" is a style,
as opposed to genre
> yadda yadda yadda.)
>
> Starting from there, does anyone have any thoughts
on "noir horror?" For
> one thing, the modern horror novel is something of a
descendant of the
> Gothic novel, just as the modern
mystery/detective/hardoiled/noir novel.
I'm glad you mentioned this, as I am taking a graduate
seminar on the Gothic novel right now, and had the same
thought about pulp and noir being so closely aligned. The
professor said about my thought, "To equate pulp with gothic
is to do violence to both terms." Which I think is a pretty
awful thing to say. Gothic and noir share so many elements,
but because of the
"feminization" of gothic early on, they sort of laughed my
comments off, as they were moreinterested in talking about
gender issues and historical perspective in defining what
gothic is. So, where I thought I was going to enjoy the
class, it seems now I've been chastised for bringing up the
noir aspect I so looked forward to exploring.
Geez. I still think I'm right. Thanks, Tribe.
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