Re: RARA-AVIS: Women Writing Pulps?

Greg Swan (
Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:59:57 -0700 Craig Rice was published before Dorothy B. Hughes. I haven't read her
earlier stuff and so can't opine as to how hardboiled it was/is. Some of
her novels are hardboiled, but the ones I've seen are from later in her
career. I believe she published some short stories in the pulps prior to
1940, as well.

Greg Swan

Bill Hagen wrote:
> I recently posted a speculation that Dorothy B. Hughes, in 1942 (_The
> Fallen Sparrow_), may have been the first woman to publish a novel with
> noir elements. No one suggested another, which I take as a good sign (uh,
> so far), since I know some of you have read deeply in the early stuff.
> Let me bother you with another question. Does anyone know of any women
> publishing in the pulps--Black Mask, etc.--before 1940? (Perhaps someone
> publishing under a male name?) If I don't hear a thing, I will again take
> it as a probable negative--until I can get to a major research library.
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