[SNIP]
> No problem with the definitions, especially since I
contributed (which
> didn't realize at the time). Problem is in including
Cain in the
> "Hardboiled" category, if it "involves a detective,
private
> investigator...." Cain's protagonists seem to fit the
"Noir" category, as
> defined above.
I posted some thoughts a while back in which I suggested Cain
included
elements of both hard-boiled and noir.
[flame suite on:]
I'm not sure that there has to be a *detective figure* in
order to
qualify a text as hard boiled
[:flame suit off]
FWIW, however, in Cain's _TPART_, there is an investigating
agent, and
of course Frank and Cora are under investigation. However,
there's no
murder in Cain's _Mildred Pierce_, so, following the chain of
logic
implied by Bill H.'s post, Cain's _MP_ wouldn't be
hardboiled, while the
film would be...? [on the grounds that there is a detective
who
investigates MP--the film unfolds as a series of flashbacks
while she is
being questioned].
Hmmm... not sure if this post has actually worked---only one
coffee thus
far this morning, so mind-body system not yet fully
initialized ... post
and be damned ...
ED
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