-Dave
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 BaxDeal@aol.com wrote:
> while I agree with the general assessment of
hard-boiled being an attitude, I
> don't feel as many here do that it has to necessarily
involve
> institutionalized corruption.
>
> and while noir certainly reflects a visual style in
film, the French refered
> to the genre as "black" more for its nihilistic
philosophy rather than because
> most of works of the original era were filmed in
black and white.
> specifically, noir reflects the view that we are all
doomed. therefore, a
> novel, which has no visual style to speak of, can
certainly be both hardboiled
> and noir. if the characters (particularly the
protagonist) has enough mental
> and emotional toughness, it qualifies as hardboiled.
and if no matter how he
> or she strives, he or she is fucked in the end, the
story is noir.
>
> that's my opinion and it should be yours
too.
>
> John Lau
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