Sorry if I offended you. I have been an avid reader of
mystery fiction
for over 35 years and I admit to conservative taste on moral
issues. No,
I am not a Republican and usually sympathize with Democrats
on foreign
affairs and social (as distinct from moral) issues.
The remark about puritanism I take as a compliment. I am
a
5-point-Calvinist Christian who was not always this way.
There is a
tendency nowadays to criticize mindlessly the Puritans and to
use this
term despectively. This comes from stereotyping and viewing
them with a
narrow, biased eye. I have no such predjuice, though I used
to. What
cured me was studying them "in toto" and not with a view to
foster a
bias.
I subsrcibed to this list knowingly and am trying to
participate in some
of the discussions on it. Though I do dissaprove of some
"styles" of
living and of matters such as abortion. I do not hesitate in
having
friends and chatting with people who disagree with me
strongly on those.
Please do not judge me so harshly or contemptuosly; at least,
not yet!
Enrique
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonia Abecassis
[SMTP:sabecass@capgemini.fr]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 7:51 PM
> To: rara-avis@icomm.ca
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Harb-boiled females?
(flick)
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> Hi everyone ,
> Reading this mail made me wonder whether this
puritanism was related
> to the
> Monicagate ?
> Cheers from Paris
> Sonia
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Enrique Bird <ebird@gmgroup.com>
> =C0 : rara-avis@icomm.ca
<rara-avis@icomm.ca>
> Date : mardi 29 septembre 1998 23:39
> Objet : RE: RARA-AVIS: Harb-boiled females?
(flick)
>=20
>=20
> >Dave:
> >
> >Hi, my name is Enrique and am new to this
although an old fan.
> >
> >When you say "Kevin Bacon frontal nude", do you
mean as in his
> genital
> >area in sight or a la Kevin Costner as Robin
Hood? I discussed this
> >theme with a group of friends and insisted there
is no mainstream
> >American or British movie with male frontal
nudity. Some said that
> Basic
> >Instinct and a Bruce Willis movie were supposed
to have this. As I do
> >not like nudity of any type, male or female, in a
movie, I could not
> >disprove this. Some friend who watched both after
this said that
> those 2
> >movies did not really have frontal male
nudity.
> >
> >I had the unpleasant experience of watching a
movie with repeated
> male
> >frontal nudity over 24 years ago, in France. I do
not remember the
> title
> >or director, because of the disgust it caused,
although it was
> French. I
> >do remember seeing both a nude and excited man at
the beginning who
> >caused his wife or lover or something to scream
when he took off his
> >boxers and a woman, I think the villainess,
sitting on a chair,
> >inserting her hand inside a standing man's fly
and playing with his
> >uncircuncised you-know-what. It was not a
directly sexual scene. The
> >other one was one of unpleasant violence which I
do not recall
> clearly
> >involving a naked man and woman in some hay (I
think) and the woman
> >cutting his belly open with a knife; he first
laughs and then screams
> as
> >he is dying. My friends (all male) seemed to
enjoy the movies; I was
> >most embarassed and helpless, as in not knowing
what to do or how to
> >exit. I learned never to go to the movies in
Europe without knowing
> >specifics about what I will watch; what they
consider "art" is very
> >differente from what I do.
> >
> >Enrique
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: MWhite8482@aol.com
[SMTP:MWhite8482@aol.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 1998 10:31
PM
> >> To: rara-avis@icomm.ca
> >> Subject: RARA-AVIS: Harb-boiled females?
(flick)
> >>
> >> I just saw a movie with a pretty hard-boiled
female in it...
> >> Definitely a noir
> >> choice on my list. Try Neve Campbell's "Wild
Things." A
> complicated
> >> movie...
> >> Very hard-boiled, and very interesting...
have to say though, the
> >> Kevin Bacon
> >> frontal nude was a bit much... Other than
that I don't want to give
> >> too much
> >> away on the movie, but check it out, rent
it... I'd be happy to
> chit
> >> chat with
> >> anyone who has seen it, though....
> >>
> >>
> >> -Dave
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