Re: RARA-AVIS: Hard-boiled politics (Was: Short administrative note)

William Denton (
Sun, 12 Jul 1998 18:16:37 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, ejm duggan wrote:

: I'm not sure this is the case at all Bill. Surely 'the hardboiled'
: is a broad, multivocalised statement against institutionalised
: corruption in North America and, as such, is nothing but political?

You're quite right. In fact I just finished _The Alienist_, Caleb
Carr's recent serial killer set in 1896 New York. It's set in
whorehouses and the poorest neighbourhoods, there's a fair bit of
politics and high-level religion involved, and a lot of it seemed like
a classic hardboiled setting. The lead characters didn't fit, but
some of the smaller characters did. Am I misremembering, or was there
a little discussion a while ago about how far back it would be
possible to set a hardboiled story?

What I meant, though I didn't state it too clearly, was that modern
politics - the stuff of news reports - and the particular orientations
of list-members are not really relevant. I've seen a number of lists
get into huge flame wars because of a crack that offended someone's
party beliefs. It's best to let it slide, with no comment, or to
follow up in private.


William Denton | Toronto, Canada | | Caveat lector.
            "Let's keep the party polite."

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