michael david sharp wrote:
>
> This argument in favor of Daly doesn't really hold
water. My students are
> hardly intersted in pretension or profundity (not
similar things at all,
> by the way). They love fast-paced entertainment and
are in fact resistant
> to writers who look like they're trying really hard
to be artistes. Daly
> is patently unreadable to many (incl. myself), not
bec. it's just fun and
> not serious, but bec. it's wooden and laden w/
awkward, labored diction --
> Daly is trying So Hard to demonstrate his knowledge
of underground lingo
> that his writing comes across as Precisely
pretentious (though not
> profound) and mechanical (hardly a good combination).
Hammett is pulp
> fiction, Chandler is pulp fiction, Whitfield, Cain,
Davis, ALL pulp
> fiction. Not all pulp fiction is of a piece. That my
kids think Daly sucks
> does not mean they're looking for Grand Ideas; it
just means they know
> good writing when they see it (and when they don't).
M-
>
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> On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Greg Swan wrote:
>
> > I love reading Carroll John Daly. I don't think
I want to take the time to
> > launch a spirited academic defense of his work,
though. That's probably the
> > point. Not a lot of pretention or even
profundity there . . . just some
> > enjoyable pulp writing. Bellem or even Edgar
Rice Burroughs can be
> > similarly destroyed, but are also fun reads.
Perhaps this sort of fiction
> > might rate a little higher in a class devoted to
understanding and analyzing
> > pulp writing.
> >
> > Greg
> > swan@poboxes.com
> >
> > michael david sharp wrote:
> > >
> > > Dennis --
> > > I rather liked your interpretation, wrong
or not.
> > >
> > > Spent yesterday trying (w/ my students) to
figure out the popularity of
> > > Carroll John Daly. Editor of Black Mask
Boys (William F. Nolan) trashes
> > > him even as he asserts his place at the
origin of the hardboiled
> > > phenomenon. My kids absolutely (and
hilariously) tore Daly apart. Of
> > > course they'd just started reading Maltese
Falcon, which can make even
> > > competent writing look hack by comparison.
M-
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, DCardKJHS
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hell's Bells! I should have had the
good sense to use the reference sources
> > > > at my command before popping off with
my semi-plausible off the top of my head
> > > > explanation of this particular usage
of "johnson". Apologies to all who
> > > > thought I sounded like a snickering
schoolboy uttering "nasties" in class.
> > > > Dennis
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