TERRY MCCOMBS wrote: > > -> Any book when someone holds another person's face against the red-hot > -> electric burner of a stove to make him talk is hard-boiled. Yes, > -> American Tabloid is hard boiled. > > So, just nasty brutality makes for hard-boiled? So then does that put > John Norman's Planet Gor novels in? To say nothing of the first > hard-boiled book _The 1001 Nights of Sodom by de Sade! But that would > leave out the likes of....well why list them? Most all of the fathers of > hard-boiled. > > I would say that to be sure the above could very much be part of a HB > story, BUT it does not have to be, and is not the main element. OK. OK. You win. I'm an extremist. Some hard-boiled boys are. Especially for books with an Ellroy name on them. Richard King - # RARA-AVIS: To unsubscribe, say "unsubscribe rara-avis" # to majordomo@icomm.ca