Re: RARA-AVIS:1,00 BEST CRIME NOVELS

From: sonny (sforstater@yahoo.com)
Date: 20 Jan 2009

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    i think you just said that obama is noir. actually, he is mulâtre.

    --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net> wrote:

    > From: Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net>
    > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS:1,00 BEST CRIME NOVELS
    > To: "RARA-AVIS" <rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com>
    > Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:34 PM
    > If your comment on Auster (read below) is Œnot a
    > judgement¹, then, as some
    > French say, Obama is not black...
    >
    > The simple idea that Auster should not be included in
    > discussions on any
    > crime writing, or noir, or whatever related to all the
    > topics touched upon
    > in Rara, is highly symptomatic of the absurd ghetto into
    > which he (Auster)
    > has been kept by a large part of the critique here in the
    > US, and especially
    > the Crime Stories critics....and mrt is just repeating here
    > their usual
    > credo: ³More technique than substance²...please...!!...is
    > that what one
    > should call a Œclassificatory comment¹...(what are those
    > by the way, where
    > do they start and where do they end being
    > Œclassificatory¹...)...
    >
    > Nothing else to add here since this terrain has been
    > covered ample times in
    > Rara in the past ten years and nothing evolves on that
    > front...
    >
    > Better subject: Thanks a million to Duane for the article
    > on Cody¹s demise
    > and I hope that nothing of such fate will occur to the
    > great store in
    > Portland (Powell¹s)
    >
    > Montois
    >
    > On 1/19/09 4:38 PM, "jacquesdebierue"
    > <jacquesdebierue@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > <mailto:rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com> ,
    > > Steve Novak <Cinefrog@...> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> > Do we detect a litlle bias against Auster
    > there...or are we about to
    > >> > re-ignate the ŒAuster-is-noir¹
    > controversy...?
    > >> >
    > >> > ...but..²on n¹est jamais prophète en son
    > pays²...of course...and the
    > > fact
    > >> > that Auster is quoted in a list in the
    > Guardian is therefore logical...
    > >> >
    > >> > ????
    > >
    > > It was not a judgment on Auster but merely a
    > classificatory comment. I
    > > would never include him in such a list. He's a
    > technical writer, a
    > > fluent writer, but not really a storyteller like crime
    > literature
    > > pros. This is not the place to discuss his work, but I
    > do think he is
    > > overrated by the critics. More technique than
    > substance.
    > >
    > > Best,
    > >
    > > mrt
    >
    >
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