No I haven't seen the remake, but it was highly praised by the
critics. And Daniel Auteuil sports a "noire" mustache reminiscing of
Lino Ventura's in the original. And according to popular culture
pundits out there, 'staches are due for a comeback based on Michael
Imperioli's appearance in the new "Life On Mars" TV series. Which
could be the start of a new thread on this list: "facial hair and noir".
jpj
On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Steve Novak wrote:
> Funny ou mention this JP...we just watched Le Deuxième Souffle that
> we got
> from Netflix, from the Giovanni novel and script...
> Absolutely essential. Book and Melville film...I haven’t seen the
> Corneau
> remaque...have you?
>
> Montois
>
> On 10/30/08 5:27 PM, "jean-pierre jacquet" <jacquet@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd like to mention José Giovanni, french ex-con turned successful
> > writer (4 books in the Série Noire, countless scripts) and
> filmmaker.
> > His parents were professional gamblers who ran a gambling hall in
> > Paris but lost a fortune during the Depression; José joined the
> > Résistance in 1944 and then got involved with a gang specialized in
> > blackmailing wartime French collaborators; was picked up after a
> > shootout and spent 11 years on death row; was pardoned in the late
> > 50's and turned his prison memoirs into a succesful first novel LE
> > TROU. He was involved in a bunch of noirish films featuring Delon,
> > Ventura, Gabin, Belmondo.
> > On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Steve Novak wrote:
> >
> >> > Thanks Jim for this; your precious info has been saved and all
> the
> >> > additions
> >> > since give a very ull picture.
> >> > Thanks again,
> >> >
> >> > Montois
> >> >
> >> > On 10/29/08 5:48 PM, "JIM DOHERTY" <jimdohertyjr@yahoo.com
> >> <mailto:jimdohertyjr%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> >> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Re Jonathan's comment below:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > "Does anyone know of criminal writers and I can only think
> of one
> >> > cop writer
> >>> > > in Joseph Wambaugh."
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I'm crushed. Crushed!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > All those responses to Jonathan's post, and no one thought to
> >> > mention your
> >>> > > obediant servant? A police officer most of his adult life, a
> Spur
> >> > winner, a
> >>> > > Dagger nominee, and a Rare Bird lo these many years, and not a
> >> > single mention?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Leaving myself aside, a few more cops turned crime writer.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Leslie T. White, L.A. County D.A.'s Investigator and author
> of the
> >>> > > autobiography ME, DETECTIVE and the cop novels HARNESS BULL
> and
> >> > HOMICIDE.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Jess Kimbrough, retired LAPD detective lieutenant, and one
> of the
> >> > highest
> >>> > > ranking black officers in that department when he retired in
> 1939,
> >> > who wrote
> >>> > > DEFENDER OF THE ANGELS, a novel based on his experiences
> policing
> >> > L.A. in the
> >>> > > '20's and '30's.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Dallas Barnes, who worked Narcotics and Homicide in LAPD's
> >> > Southwest Division
> >>> > > prior to writing novels like SEE THE WOMAN, BADGE OF HONOR,
> and
> >> > YESTERDAY IS
> >>> > > DEAD, as well as scripts for TV shows like HUNTER, JOE
> FORRESTER,
> >> > etc.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > John Ball, who found the police work he researched for his
> Virgil
> >> > Tibbs novels
> >>> > > so fascinating that he became a reserve deputy in the L.A.
> County
> >> > Sheriff's
> >>> > > Office, eventually turning those experiences into fiction in
> THE
> >> > VAN and THE
> >>> > > MURDER CHILDREN.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Gene Roddenberry, who was a sergeant in LAPD, working as Chief
> >> > Parker's
> >>> > > perosnal secretary, and the department's liason to Jack
> Webb. He
> >> > broke into
> >>> > > TV writing by turning case files into story treatments for
> DRAGNET
> >> > that were
> >>> > > then fleshed out into full scripts by Webb's stable of
> writers.
> >> > Later, using
> >>> > > a pseudonym, he wrote full scripts for shows like HIGHWAY
> PATROL.
> >> > He'S better
> >>> > > known for STAR TREK than for his cop show scripts, OF
> COURSE, but
> >> > cop shows
> >>> > > are how he broke into the industry.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Former US Secret Service Agent Gerald Petievich wrote four
> novels
> >> > about Secret
> >>> > > Service agents in Los Angeles based on his own experiences,
> and
> >> > one novel
> >>> > > based on the experiences of his brother, John, as a
> detective in
> >> > LAPD's
> >>> > > C.R.A.S.H. unit.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > And that's just in the Los Angeles area.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Still sticking to California, there's Inyo County Deputy
> Sheriff
> >> > Kirk
> >>> > > Mitchell, San Diego PD Detective Sergeant Jack Mullen, San
> >> > Francisco Police
> >>> > > Officer Jerry Kenneally, San Jose Police Chief Joseph
> McNamara.
> >> > Oakland Police
> >>> > > Officer Kent Anderson (though, strictly speaking, his NIGHT
> DOGS
> >> > seems to be
> >>> > > based on his time in the Portland, OR, Police, prior to his
> >> > lateral transfer
> >>> > > to OPD), and San Jose Police Investigator David Scannell.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > In Louisiana there's O'Neill de Noux and B.J. Bourg. In Texas,
> >> > there's Anne
> >>> > > Wingate and Richard Abshire. In Florida there's Cherokee Paul
> >> > MacDonald. In
> >>> > > Vermont there's Archer Mayor. In Tennessee there's David
> Hunter.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > And how about FBI Agents like Gordon Gordon, Paul Lindsey,
> Arthur
> >> > Nehrbass,
> >>> > > Christopher Whitcomb, and Gus Riehl?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The rest of the world? There's Britain's John Wainwright,
> Basil
> >> > Thomson, Joan
> >>> > > Lock, Graham Ison, and Peter Walker. The Netherlands' A.C.
> Bantjer
> >> > and
> >>> > > Janwillem van de Wetering. The Soviet Union's Fridrikh
> Neznansky.
> >> > Finland's
> >>> > > Matti Joensuu. India's Yogesh Pratap.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > As for ex-cons, has anyone on this thread mentioned former
> FBI Top
> >> > Tenner
> >>> > > Albert Nussbaum or white-collar criminal and Edgar-winner Paul
> >> > Erdman? How
> >>> > > about Malcom Braly, who was the subject of a very recent
> thread?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Finally, regarding the writer who started this thread, who was
> >> > neither a cop
> >>> > > nor a criminal, David Goodis, if you don't think he was
> capable of
> >> > writing
> >>> > > with verisimilitude, with what a famous mystery editor once
> called
> >> > "technical
> >>> > > verity," check out his pioneering, and quite well-
> researched, police
> >>> > > procedural novel OF MISSING PERSONS. Untypical, I grat you,
> but
> >> > damned good.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Longest-winded I've been in a while. Hope you didn't mind.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > JIM DOHERTY
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> Steve Novak
> Cinefrog@comcast.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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