William-
With all due respect, if THE KILLERS and THE ASPHALT JUNGLE
aren't noir, then nothing is.
Brian Thornton
----- Original Message -----
From: William Ahearn
To:
rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:08 PM
Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: Noir series (long
answer)
--- Michael Robison <
miker_zspider@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Aren't there a few movies made from Chandler's
work
> that are considered noir?
>
I don't want to start a whole thing over this but
I
don't consider Chandler or Hammett or Spillane
as
noir. And that's not based on the fact that
novels and
stories with Philip Marlowe could be considered
a
series (in reference to the original post) but
because
they're of a completely different
sensibility.
Granted, I may be alone in this definition but
the
more I research what two French critics actually
meant
(and didn't coin) I feel more strongly than ever.
I
might as well go with both barrels and say that
I
don't think Siodmak's The Killers or John
Huston's The
Asphalt Jungle is noir. Don't get me wrong, I
love
both flicks. In my world, what can be considered
noir
is much, much smaller than what most other
people
think. The French filmmakers had it right from
the
getgo. Not the critics. The filmmakers.
And I'll articulate it better in essays since it
does
eat up a lot of space.
William
William
Essays and Ramblings
<http://www.williamahearn.com>
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