Re: RARA-AVIS: Trouble Is My Business & Total Chaos

From: Brian Thornton ( tieresias@worldnet.att.net)
Date: 22 Jun 2007


Oh yeah, THE LONG GOODBYE? Totally heavy-handed. No light brush strokes there. In fact, when I re-read it last summer, I thought to myself, "You know what this reminds me of? Frank Miller's Splatter-Fest-Cum-Graphic-Novel RONIN (not to be confused with DeNiro film of the same name).

Brian Thornton

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Robert Elkin
  To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Trouble Is My Business & Total Chaos

  Well, aside from his ability to turn a phrase neatly &
  brilliantly, Chandler himself is a bit comic-bookish &
  heavy-handed with the whole Marlovian "romantic hero"
  dodge, so maybe it won't be too bad a combo.
  Rob

  --- Nathan Cain < IndieCrime@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree completely. I cringed when I saw this over
> at Crimespree Cinema.
> Miller's writing style works for comic books, which
> are not the most
> sophisticated or subtle venue. Sin City translated
> well onto the screen,
> but it was still Sin City. Meh.
>
>
> On 6/22/07, Kevin Burton Smith
> < kvnsmith@thrillingdetective.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2007, at 9:13 PM, Vince Keenan wrote:
> >
> > > It was announced a while back that Clive Owen
> would produce and
> > > star as Philip Marlowe in a new series of
> Raymond Chandler
> > > adaptations. The first project has been
> announced. It will be
> > > based on the novella TROUBLE IS MY BUSINESS.
> Perhaps more
> > > interesting is the choice of writer: Frank
> Miller, who worked with
> > > Owen on SIN CITY. Let the arguments commence.
> >
> > Okay.
> >
> > Owen as Marlowe? Sure. He might be very effective,
> with the ability
> > to be both hard and soft. Certainly a better
> choice than Montgomery
> > or Garner. Or Boothe Powers (the poor man's Stacy
> Keach. Or is it the
> > other way around?)
> >
> > And of course, Miller may have hidden depths. But
> him doing Chandler?
> >
> > Yuck. My first reaction is... Miller's a
> pretentious hack. Oooh!
> > Black ink! How artistic!
> >
> > SIN CITY? Technically and visually, it was
> stunning. But the writing
> > was simply for the stunned. A bloated, smug,
> overwrought, humourless
> > and soulless film, based on equally bloated, smug,
> overwrought,
> > humourless and soulless comic books; PULP FICTION
> (and pulp fiction)
> > stripped of any cleverness and dumbed down (way,
> way down) for
> > fourteen year males of all ages and genders.
> >
> > Adapting Chandler requires a grace and deftness
> and subtlety I've
> > never really seen in any of Miller's work.
> Miller's generally about
> > as subtle as an amputated leg.
> >
> > If Miller wants to adapt a classic detective
> author, he should go for
> > someone like Spillane, and leave Chandler for
> someone better qualified.
> >
> > You purists think Altman took liberties? Wait'll
> Marlowe pulls out a
> > bazooka or starts boinking hookers.
> >
> > Of course, as I said, I could be wrong.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>

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