Nathan, the term "evil" assumes metaphysics which cannot be
established empirically. People who bandy about the word
"evil" tend to be a little on the mental edge, themselves, in
my experience. Because someone performs an act that is not of
benefit to you or your extended group does not make them
"evil," however inconvenient their actions may have proved to
you. If they perform these acts based on twisted logic,
though, they are very likely insane. When you say "Prisons
are full of entirely sane people," how do you know this? Do
you vist prisions frequently? Most of those murderers will be
paroled in their lifetime. Will you take them into your home,
or rent the apartment upstairs to them while they make the
transition from prison life? A man who murders his wife or
girlfriend is capable of too much rage for me to give him a
second chance, personally. When do you decide a person who's
committed murder is "perfectly sane?" Do you think Ilene
Wournos was "perfectly sane." If you do, see the Biography
Channel's Notorious episode about her with the actual footage
of her trial. What about Edward Kemper who murdered co-eds in
San Francisco before he killed his mother, set her head on
the mantle piece and put her larynx down the garbage
disposal? Or Alan Blackthorn who had his ex-wife and the
mother of his two daughters murdered while she cared for her
infant quintuplets, leaving her butchered corpse for his
daughter to discover? The child, of course, knew immediately
who'd done it! When do you think someone's insane? How bad
does it have to get?
Patrick King
--- Nathan Cain <
IndieCrime@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't see how someone who is a murderer
is
> automatically insane. Prisons
> are full of entirely sane people. They may
be
> maladjusted, but that doesn't
> equate to crazy by a long shot. Violence is
a
> normal, if not socially
> acceptable, response to certain situations,
and
> just because someone
> behaves in a way that is non-normative does not
make
> them crazy. And people
> who habitually kill people, like Ripley, or
Bulger
> or Siegel, aren't crazy.
> They're evil. There's a difference.
>
>
> On 4/6/07, Patrick King <
abrasax93@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Miker, you don't have to be drooling and
raving
> to be
> > insane! Because Ripley has a unique talent
for
> masking
> > his mental problems, does not dismiss them. I
have
> > read all the Ripley books, but even in the
first
> one,
> > Ripley's complete lack of conscience and
empathy,
> his
> > ability to lie bold faced to people who have
been
> > extremely kind and helpful to him, his
homocidal
> > rages, give every indication of his mental
state.
> Do
> > you think Bugsy Seigal or Whitey Bulger are
sane
> just
> > because they were clever at playing politics?
If
> you
> > do murder to solve your problems, you are not
sane
> > whether you're in a mob or an individual. All
mobs
> are
> > is group psychosis. That's why they're
so
> dangerous.
> > Even if you live a perfectly ordinary life
but
> fund it
> > by anti-social behavior, especailly murder
for
> hire,
> > is full evidence of decreased mental
facility.
> >
> > Patrick King
> > ---
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> removed]
>
>
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