Hi All-- I've heard from several sources (no guarantee this
is correct) that the use of "noir" as a definitive comes from
French criticism's treatment of Woolrich's series of "black"
novels--bride wore black, black alibi, rendezvous en black,
etc.--if this is so, might we not hold those texts as an
index of just exactly what
"noir" might be, strictly speaking? (Note--I'm not disputing
anything anyone's said on the matter lately; any term, given
enough time & interest, will of course evolve to meet the
needs of use.) Rob
---
bsandyman@att.net wrote:
> Kerry typeth...
>
> > If Hamlet had acted more decisively
but
> unsuccessfully, however, plunging
> > Denmark into decades of civil war, only to
be
> conquered by the Netherlands,
> > killing Hamlet, Claudius and the rest of
the
> Danish royals and enslaving
> > the Danes to build dykes against the North
Sea,
> well, that would have been
> > noir.
>
> Ok, so the distinction is that in noir you
are
> screwed despite your choices. The protagonist
can't
> win because there is too much chaos in the
way?
>
> --
> Clendon
>
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