Mario,
Re your comments below:
> Let's debate "What is hardboiled?" and
> "What is
> noir?" instead.
No need to. "Hardboiled" is "tough and colloquial."
"Noir" is "dark and sinister." The matters have already been
settled.
> Or, to make it easier, "What is the
> difference between hardboiled and noir and,
should
> these be
> proven to be intersecting genres, what is the
extent
> of
> such an intersection, what are
representative
> examples of
> hardnoir, and what are some useful criteria
for
> telling
> without reading the works in question?".
Again, already settled. If it's tough and colloquial, it's
hardboiled. If it's dark and sinister it's noir.
If it's tough and colloquial, and dark and sinister,
it's both hardboiled and noir.
And, BTW, Grafton and Paretsky both have enough
"gravitas" to be spoken of here without embarassment.
JIM DOHERTY
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