On 13 February 2003, Mark Sullivan wrote:
: Mario, you put into words something that has been nagging
at me
: throughout this discussion. Are we talking about story or
presentation?
:
: Sure, there are plenty of stories prior to those we accept
as noir that
: have noirish plotlines. But are they told in a noir style?
Although
: Willeford based the story of Cockfighter on Homer's Odyssey
(as did the
: Coens in the movie O' Brother), is the model noir? I think
not.
Nor do I. History is full of bleak and tragic twisted
stories, as well as tough people trying to do what's right in
a world of evil, but that doesn't mean they're noir or
hardboiled stories (or even proto-). The writing style key,
and it didn't come along until the twentieth century.
Bill
-- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector.
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