Re: RARA-AVIS: RE: Review of Chandler Papers

From: Kent Westmoreland ( kentwestmoreland@hotmail.com)
Date: 27 Feb 2001


Juri wrote: The writers Cain influenced might in the end provide more interesting body of work than those who followed Chandler's work.

This statement is almost unanswerable because it is one of the most uninformed statements I have ever heard/read. I can't imagine any American mystery writer of the latter half of the 20th century that wasn't influenced by Chandler. Even if they haven't read him, they've been influenced by writers who were influenced by him. Even writers like Julie Smith, who work appears to have nothing in common with Chandler admits to this.

----Original Message Follows---- From: Juri Nummelin < jurnum@utu.fi> Reply-To: rara-avis@icomm.ca To: < rara-avis@icomm.ca> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: RE: Review of Chandler Papers Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:44:39 +0200 (EET)

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Dick Lochte wrote:

> I find it odd that readers (on this list especially) get bent out of
shape
> by Peter Temple's comment about Gardner and Cain being forgotten but have
> not taken issue with his statement that "Hammett's equipment was
> second-rate. His prose was only slightly less wooden than that of most
> pulp-magazine writers, and there is something naive about his world
view."

You're right. Hammett might have been a bit clumsy at times and some of his plots are dated now, but his prose is as clear as a fountain lake
(if this metaphor fits the subject). I just reread (in the translation) Peter Haining's "Pulp Frictions", a merely mediocre anthology, in which Hammett's (or Peter Collinson's actually) "Arson Plus" shines as a gem.

> And Cain, though currently out of vogue, made a large
> enough contribution to the genre (paving the way for Thompson, Goodis,
> Willeford, Woodrell, etc.) for him to be remembered by most mystery
readers
> and, one hopes, every mystery writer.

You're right also on this. The writers Cain influenced might in the end provide more interesting body of work than those who followed Chandler's work.

Juri

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