Re: RARA-AVIS: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:58:35 -0500

From: Mark Sullivan ( DJ-Anonyme@webtv.net)
Date: 14 Nov 2000


Pelecanos wrote:

"When Joel Coen and I discussed the issue, he admitted the connection, but pointed to hip-hop as another modern art that, like film, processes direct and indirect influences into a new kind of whole. Sampling beats, though, isn't quite the same as lifting entire storylines from novels, so I don't exactly agree that Hammett's non-credit should be so easily dismissed. But I do understand his position, and his point."

After sampled artists became aware of the value of their samples -- after Van Halen leased a guitar sample for Tone Loc's huge hit Wild Thing for a small flat rate,Gilbert O'Sullivan's estate won a settlement from Biz Markie and the Turtles from De La Soul, among other cases -- they began to demand and get credit and remuneration. Not saying a lot of uncredited sampling doesn't still go on, but the booklet of just about every hip hop CD is filled with little print listing the core samples. So Coen's free, uncredited sampling analogy doesn't really hold up as precedent, although it probably did at the time of Miller's Crossing's release.

Don't get me wrong, I love Miller's Crossing, but the Hammett liftings
(homage if you're feeling generous) are pretty obvious. As a matter of fact, they are even more blatant than some Tarantino gets criticized for. Sure, Tarantino obviously saw City on Fire before he made Reservoir Dogs (and he admits it), but he took a small part at the end of that film and used it as the foundation for a whole new film, scratching and mixing it with bits and pieces from numerous other films, including The Killing, Les Doulous, etc. I think the sampling analogy applies pretty well to Tarantino. He draws from numerous sources, uses turntable/editing-table wizardry to combine them in such a way as to create a new work; sure, it's fun to catch all of the references/samples, but there is an original eye ordering them.

The Coens tend to draw on one source at a time -- Cain in Blood Simple, Hammett in Miller's Crossing, Chandler in Big Lebowski -- and give us their take on him. And frankly, that's what I like about them, their dialogs with past masters. And unlike De Palma's wholesale aping of Hitchcock (and occasionally someone else, say Eisenstein's Odessa Steps sequence), the Coens keep up their side of the conversation.

Mark

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