: Actually, I think those alone *are* what makes a book
: hardboiled suspense novel is a suspense novel with a tough, colloquial
I disagreee. There's more to hardboiled than an easy, tough
I can't think of any rules right now. The earlier points made about
systemic corruption are important, although any list of requirements would
have to be allowed to fit loosely.
Someone recommended a Nelson DeMille book, _Plum Island_, to
me a few
months ago. The hero was a tough slang-using, beer-drinking, woman-chasing
cop who was taking some time off work because of an injury. He got mixed
up in some biological warfare shenanigans, or something. I'll never know
because I couldn't get past page 50. It was awful. One of the things
that annoyed me was that DeMille was using all the surface aspects of a
hardboiled character without really understanding what it was really all
about. The rest of the book was just a standard, modern, bad,
How would you define a noir novel, as opposed to a hardboiled
one? How do
things like _The Talented Mr. Ripley_ and _I Was Dora Suarez_ fit your
Some other folks on the list must have thoughts about
been talking about them for two years, and it can't be as simple as "tough
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