William Denton <wtd@pobox.com>
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"Legendo autem et scribendo vitam procudito." — Marcus Terentius Varro (116 - 27 B.C.)
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- Quite right. I also consider
3 weeks 1 day ago - Don't forget Doom, Octopus,
3 weeks 1 day ago - Harnum finished reading the
3 weeks 5 days ago - Very excellent. Finishing up
7 weeks 5 days ago - Shouldn't this require an
7 weeks 5 days ago - This is very very
8 weeks 1 day ago - Back when I wrote using troff
8 weeks 3 days ago - These prices seem very low
11 weeks 5 days ago - Summon, abt 40.000$/yr in
12 weeks 3 days ago - There can be legitimate
12 weeks 5 days ago


Very excellent. Finishing up a large document in LaTeX I'm kicking myself I didn't keep follow my initial forays in using RCS. Git would have been even better.
Also, great journal article. Typo in Future Directions: "They would we ragged"
-DNFThere can be legitimate reasons for non-disclosure during quotation phase, but since most of us are publicly funded, libraries should be willing to share that info, especially once a deal has been signed. Worst case, I can get it via access to information request! I'm always taken aback with how guarded people seem to be about sharing pricing. It's really counter-productive to our shared interests in having a more responsive marketplace.
So I agree, there's been too much secrecy around this. Two dynamics that seem to be at play: 1) "oops, maybe we paid too much" - so don't tell anybody so we don't get exposed as suckers, plus the vendor told us it's top secret!; and 2) "lucky us, they cut us a deal" so keep it quiet and don't rock the boat since we don't want to spoil our special arrangement (let the others pay the higher price - we got our deal!).
It's not entirely unfair and vendors do have a right to have some differences, flexibilities, and so on in their pricing. But it's also not unfair for "consumers" to be more actively engaged in how the market prices through information sharing, organizing, etc.
Too many libraries ruin it for rest of us by having a "take me, I'm your sucker" approach to negotiations. Great post and appreciate you sharing the info.
parser librarian..I'll try to find the electronic resource numbers and see what they show. I think I can pick out ebook access, which would make it more of a comparison of like to like, but who knows.
Use of computers is a good point. It made me think: how much of book-borrowing in 1990 was just to find some basic facts that are now easily findable online? I can imagine — I can remember! — taking home a few books just so I'd have basic historical and biographical facts at hand while working on a paper. That kind of information is now all over the Internet, reliably, and we're all the better for it. The rest of the 1990 borrowing was "serious" research, but was the serious stuff 40% of the total then? 60%? 80%? Guessing that might give a better idea of how much of the decline is meaningful and how much is just the Internet saving people time.